Women's organizations claim that women are the victims of hate speech, but they are not telling the truth that 99% of the perpetrators of the hate speech are women.
Below is an article translated from Finnish:
""The well- known fact in the media industry is that women get more shit than men." This is what Yle's journalist Iida Rauhalammi said in her article about the inappropriate feedback received by women in the public eye, and the topic came up on the wallpaper.
Among other things, journalist Sanna Ukkola criticized the claim in her column , which Pippa Laukka, a doctor familiar from television, grabbed on Twitter and shared her own views.
- I'm sorry to say, but 99% of the hate speech I get comes from other women. Sad but true, Laukka tweeted.
She told Ilta-Sanomat at the time that the feedback received from women is usually of a derogatory, derogatory, personal and commentary nature.
- I think it is forgotten that hate speech can come from woman to woman just as well.
- For some reason, I have never really experienced any contempt or girlfriend from men. I don't really need them, but I haven't received them, Laukka said.
According to a study commissioned by Statistics Finland last spring, offensive and harassing behavior on social media is particularly directed at young women.
According to appearance researcher Outi Sarpila , the value of women is used to be defined through appearance.
Ilta-Sanomat asked six women familiar with the public what kind of hate speech they get and who really gets the outrageous comments.
Anniina Valtonen: “Most of the negative feedback comes from women”
Meteorologist Anniina Valtonen , 31, considers the feedback she has received about her appearance even absurd. There will be a lot of it, and Valtonen has learned to move messages with certain types of headers to the work email trash. Some of them go to the side of bullying, he says.
Valtonen has talked about this with his colleagues. There are fewer appearance messages for men, and they are mostly about clothes. The messages received by women tell about things like makeup, hair, body structure and the way you stand.
Most of the positive feedback comes from men and the negative feedback from women, Valtonen says.
- People think that there is a right to criticize when the work is public. What if someone came to say something like that while sitting at an office desk?
A short time ago, he was asked if he had a chin implant because a spectator noticed scars on his chin. It was about a scar coming in as a child. The curiosity felt absurd.
- Sometimes you have to be able to laugh, he says.
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People think they have a right to criticize when a job is public. What if someone came to say something like that while sitting at an office desk?
The vicious feedback doesn’t surprise Valto, and he says he has grown Teflon skin against it. The most important thing is to be happy with the shipment itself.
However, the most cruel messages get under the skin. Then Valtonen discusses the feedback with his colleague Kerttu Kotakorvi or her husband, but outside of work she does not want to think about work-related feedback.
The feedback coming along the wires feels easier to handle than the inappropriate feedback that once came at the checkout of the fast food chain, Valtonen says.
According to Valtonen, even positive appearance feedback feels useless.
- I'm telling you about the weather, he emphasizes.
He enjoys reading constructive feedback, even about annoying manners or questions about the weather forecast itself.
Ina Mikkola: "As long as you don't mind my job because they don't like my appearance"
The strong style of journalist-writer Ina Mikkola makes many people comment. Some style is annoying, others praise it rains. Mikkola links the feedback he receives to the wider context. Hostile attitudes are easily reflected as an underestimation of competence through appearance.
- Unfortunately, negative feedback is rarely related to the content of my work. It has to do with looks, and it doesn’t even like my bow tie or girly style. I believe that the background is not the irritation towards me, but precisely the narrow image of women and the fact that we do not praise a girl but see it as somehow inferior.
It is difficult for many to combine feminine style with substance. For example, the credibility of women politicians is often associated with a low-key style.
- People don't have to like my style, but as long as they don't mind my work because they don't like my appearance.
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Some people think I’m some character or a circus clown who can say anything. If you see another so strange and special, you no longer remember that the other is a person with feelings.
Messages come on some channels and face to face. Often they are about style and clothes, but there is also feedback about the body. He does not bother to read the discussion boards.
- The more people have been allowed to do this work, the more people feel that this is just an affair and not just a bow tie, he says.
Sometimes Mikkola discusses his appearance with those who are irritated. The best thing is when annoyance makes someone aware of their prejudice and renew their views.
- When I do not submit to reduce myself, I can show others a model that girls can be diverse, many styles and diverse. There is no one image of credibility or one image of a woman.
Some feel that strong style means free game commentary.
- Some people think I'm a character or a circus clown who can say anything. If you see another so strange and special, you no longer remember that the other is a person with feelings.
Mikkola says that he also receives a lot of positive feedback from people who see his style as a liberating example. Feedback on appearance comes from both men and women.
- The deeper level of empowerment comes from women, because it is they who are limited in appearance.
- Many say it's nice when someone dares, it's nice when someone is brave, it's nice when someone is a little more colorful. It has a large order and need.
There have been pictures of children dressed in a typical nuttura and bowed.
My Power of Attorney, written by Mikkola, was published in the autumn. In terms of books, there has been less feedback on appearance than on TV.
Commenting on appearance is an exercise of power, and power can be used to either praise or subjugate.
- The feedback giver puts himself in a position to feel entitled to judge another, he says.
- In it, everyone can think about what kind of world they want to create
Alma Hätönen: “Women are still demanded much more than men”
Inappropriate feedback has unfortunately become familiar to presenter Alma Hätönen , 31. She has been working on radio and television for almost ten years. This fall, he has been seen at Big Brother.
- Big Brother is the dune of my dreams, and I enjoy it. At the same time, however, it’s hard to be on television for three months many times a week because there’s so much and daily feedback. It will inevitably start to affect my mental health as well as how I see myself. At some point, it starts to think about whether the feedback is true. Am I really such a person, Hätönen says.
Feedback often focuses on appearance and other physical characteristics. Sometimes Hätönen's personality is also criticized in the comments, and his professionalism and intelligence are also questioned.
- Only recently did I talk to a man who felt the need to come and tell me that I thought I was ugly. Quite a few people sincerely believe that they have every right to say these things, Hätönen says.
- Nowadays, comments on appearance are pretty much left to their own devices. But if the comments deal with my professionalism or personality, they will easily fall under the surface.
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At some point, it starts to think about whether the feedback is true. Am I really such a person.
Hätönen says that he receives outrageous feedback mostly from other women. She believes the reason for this lies above all in the internalized hatred of women, but also in the structures of society.
- Women are still demanded much more than men. I use exactly the same screenwriters and I have the same team behind me as my male colleagues, but the feedback is quite different. Of course, men also get feedback on their appearance, but the tone is completely different, Hätönen says.
- It is tiring that we women constantly have to raise this issue. When you say these things, it is said that this will not happen. Accused of sacrificing and pushing himself into the public eye. Therefore, I would like men to wake up to this debate as well.
Hätönen says that he will receive the attacks so that in the future fewer and fewer young women or members of the minority will have to face the same.
- What these comments want to achieve is to be silent. I admit that myself has been harder to talk about these every time. At the same time, however, I do not agree with trying to silence me, he says firmly.
Ujuni Ahmed: “Comments are always related to Islam, color or femininity”
Ujuni Ahmed , 34, who became known as a human rights expert and presenter of Yle's Somali-language news , has inappropriate comments. Ahmed talks a lot about the rights of immigrants and has often taken a stand on other grievances in society as well, such as female genital mutilation.
- It is clear that certain types of statements are causing a rage. By far the most inappropriate comments come when I talk about the white savior on development, the rights of migrants or racism. However, the feedback I receive never really touches my opinions, Ahmed says.
Ahmed is dark-skinned, with a Somali background, a Muslim and a woman. These are also the things Ahmed receives the most criticism for. Ahmed's barking is familiar to Ahmed. His religion is also being questioned.
- It would be easy to discuss if criticism were directed at things. However, it is always related to me being barked at as a Negro. I also hear a lot that Muslims rape people and we come to Finland to take their work and ruin Finnish society, Ahmed says.
- Comments are always related to Islam, skin color or femininity. According to them, as a woman, I have no rights because of my religion or culture. I’m also worried about using my scarf and wondering if anyone is forcing me to wear a scarf, he continues.
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It would be easy to discuss if criticism were directed at things. However, it is always related to me being barked at as a Negro.
Ahmed says he gets feedback especially on social media. Outrageous comments are sent equally by both men and women. Ahmed believes the motives for the messages stem from the author’s own uncertainties, attitudes, or ignorance.
Early in the year, Ahmed filed a criminal complaint when a person unknown to him publicly called him a Negro. The case was also heard in public, but the criminal report did not lead to prosecution. Since then, Ahmed has not taken any inappropriate feedback forward.
- I can no longer consume myself just because the prosecutor can say that he does not see a problem here. At the same time, barking into a Negro has only worsened. People have received a signal from a high authority that this is not a reprehensible act, Ahmed says.
Ahmed admits that when he presents his opinions on television, in the press or on social media, he is intimidated in advance by the kind of comments that follow from time to time. He therefore hopes that hate speech will be clearly defined in Finnish law and that inappropriate comments will be treated with the seriousness they require.
- I personally realize that I am not the one who is doing wrong or who should be silent. I know where the problem is. It’s not easy, but I don’t have to shut up, Ahmed emphasizes.
iina Elovaara: “Online whining is not a trivial crime”
Tiina Elovaara , 34, a former blue MP and city councilor , says that while inappropriate feedback felt bad as a politician personally, it is above all a threat to democracy.
- The spread of hate speech has led to some people no longer even daring to run for election. It is no secret that parties face challenges in recruiting young women and members of minorities. People may also withdraw from public debate and be wary of taking a stand because they are afraid. If part of the people falls silent, democracy will be in crisis, Elovaara says.
Leaving politics now seemed woeful for Elovaara, who works in a communications agency, but it was also relieving. Politics is a burdensome species.
Elovaara was the subject of hate speech and inappropriate feedback, especially after she left Perussuomalainen after the party split in June 2017.
- The nature of politics has changed a lot, because now there are many ways to give feedback. I don’t consider social media a bad thing, but it has its downsides. That’s where negative commenting is sensitive. It takes time and resources to process, Elovaara says.
- It is not a question of MPs being terribly afraid of hate speech, although of course there are fears. It is precisely its workability that is at stake. It is to some extent part of the nature of the public task, but it is terribly tiring when the focus should be on the legislative work and the matter-of-fact debate, he continues.
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For example, flogging online is by no means a trivial crime. It should not be taken lightly, and I strongly encourage you to report death threats, for example.
Elovaara noticed a clear formula in Parliament for the kind of statements that were followed by a wave of inappropriate comments. Citizens' feelings were aroused by, among other things, immigration, equality and fur farming.
Although the motive for sending outrageous messages may have been related to the matter, the content rarely talked about Elovaara's political line.
- Yes, it is the case that women, and especially the younger generation, not to mention minorities, easily receive feedback on, for example, age, gender or appearance. Everyone in the public will certainly receive inappropriate feedback, including men. But it highlights the more you meet these particular qualities, Elovaara regrets.
Elovaara never filed a criminal report for the hate messages she received. He thought it would hardly lead to anything. However, he does not recommend that all messages be forgotten.
- For example, flogging online is by no means a trivial crime. It should not be taken lightly, and I definitely encourage you to report death threats, for example, Elovaara emphasizes.
- This should not be left to women. This is where society and the police are needed so that we can also build a digitally secure society. We don’t need new laws, but existing laws should be taken advantage of, he recalls.
Jutta Larm: “There is clearly less feedback with age”
There is clearly less feedback on appearance with age than before , says welfare entrepreneur Jutta Larm , 48.
He says he noticed a difference in the feedback coming through Facebook and Instagram. Facebook has more of an older population, and there will be rude bumps from time to time. On Instagram, nasty messages often come from anonymous accounts, but sometimes under their own name.
- The messages don't really evoke any emotional reactions. I’ve been an adult woman for a long time in public, she says.
Age has brought Larm the confidence to make it easier for the feedback not to bite.
- I'm not trying to hide my wrinkles.
According to Larm, the comments tell of a huge bad feeling, and he says he is sad for those who wrote them. The messages may also be based on mental health problems, he says he is aware of.
- Not with anger back, but with compassion.
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The messages don’t really evoke any emotional reactions. I have been an adult woman for a long time in public.
The most feedback came in the early 2000s, when Larm competed in fitness competitions and set up a blog. The fitness games were in bikinis, and people commented on the body a lot. The body was often claimed to be masculine.
- It didn't go so subcutaneously because I was proud of my muscles, Larm says.
It felt particularly bad when commentators pulled out the motherhood and said she should be with the child and not in the gym pumping iron.
In the days before social media, nasty posts appeared mainly on internet discussion forums and in the comment fields of articles. Some and smartphones have changed the world a lot, according to Larm.
Larm is glad that social media didn’t even exist when he was 25 or 30 and unsure of his identity.
She thinks that less inappropriate feedback comes from men nowadays, partly because she shares a lot of her happiness with her husband Juha Larm in public.
Researcher: Commenting on appearance is an exercise of power
Commenting on the appearance of women has a long tradition, says Outi Sarpila, an appearance researcher and associate professor of economic sociology .
- It is a form of exercise of power in which, especially one who negatively comments on the appearance of another, tends to settle above the party being commented. But any commentary on appearance can be seen as an exercise of power in the sense that it distracts — either intentionally or unintentionally — from doing and merit and reduces a woman’s value to appearance.
According to Sarpila, the research does not support making women more likely than men to comment on the appearance of others.
The value of women is accustomed to being defined through appearance in different aspects of life.
- This applies to working life as well as to relationships and friendships. Thus, whether a woman is a good employee, a candidate for a spouse, a friend, or even a good citizen is determined in part by external characteristics, she says.
- So we live in a society of appearance, where the value of all but above all women depends on their external nature.
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So we live in a society of appearance, where the value of all but above all women depends on their external nature.
Commenting on the appearance, especially on social media, is also commonplace from everyday life and through public commenting.
- Suddenly you might think that there is nothing wrong with commenting on the appearance of others. However, some studies suggest that commenting on both positive and negative appearance may increase uncertainty about one’s own appearance. Thus, the consequences of appearance commentary can be unpredictable, or ones that the commentator will not even think about.
According to Sarpila, the safest strategy is to refrain from commenting on the appearance of others altogether.
He is leading a research project at the University of Turku on the economic impact of appearance and the underlying social mechanisms. Previously, he led the research project Finland as an Appearance Society, as part of which the non-fiction book Appearance Society was published.
The book discusses the connection between appearance and success in life through the term appearance capital. Good looks are useful, according to the work, but at the same time women are not allowed to benefit from their appearance.
However, for women, modifying their own appearance, ie developing their appearance capital. According to the book, men are subject to a different logic: caring for appearance is more frowned upon, but men have a more acceptable benefit from their appearance than women."
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